pinkozcat
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Remember - pillage first, THEN burn.
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Post by pinkozcat on May 25, 2009 23:07:50 GMT -5
I agree - but I think that our reactions are learned. I know that when I was small and stayed on the farm with my grandparents, a ration sheep was slaughtered every week and distributed among the farm workers and the family. The family got the brains, kidneys and liver. Because we didn't get the sweetbreads I will never ever eat them ... ...BUT I preferred my liver raw and was always sent outside to eat it. I remember that it tasted delicious.
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Post by Wyndham on May 26, 2009 7:44:58 GMT -5
I think that's the secret Pink. The GG is, Haitian by birth. I would be it isn't her first time either slaughtering, gutting or eating something recently alive. Raw liver. I think I saw you on Night of the Living Dead. You were the little girl in the basement, right?
Still: EEEEWWWW!
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pinkozcat
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Post by pinkozcat on May 26, 2009 9:31:10 GMT -5
Of course but I am grown up now ...
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Post by Tenarke on Jun 4, 2009 15:28:33 GMT -5
For those who missed the President’s Cairo speech, here is a link. www.whitehouse.gov/blog/NewBeginning/It takes nearly an hour, but I think that it will be considered one of his landmark speeches. It establishes a set of premises and promises for what will be the new US foreign policy in the Middle East. I haven’t heard anything yet from either Rush Limbaugh or Newt Gingridge on this one.
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Post by Wyndham on Jun 4, 2009 20:17:45 GMT -5
I read the coverage on the speech. Hope it works for him. I must confess, however, that I don't think there will be alot of nice words coming back from the Islamic world. We learned all that we could from them (diligent students) by about the 13th Century -- most of it was transmitted knowledge from the ancients. They appear to have learned from us: we make good gadgets; our women are too outspoken, and wear too few clothes; we are all French, and still kaffirs. After that, they couldn't help but noticing the West's dynamism. They learned from that that the end was nigh.
This is just to say that Muslims seem to like a declaration of tolerance, and applaud self-criticism in others. They NEVER tolerate and don't appear to think that Islam is in much need of a makeover.
I do hope I'm wrong, but I think he'll be disappointed in the end.
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Post by RobertGraves on Jun 5, 2009 3:40:50 GMT -5
It is a pretty safe bet that one, Wyndham.
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Post by Wyndham on Jun 5, 2009 21:53:12 GMT -5
yeah. I think so too. I just hope he's not too disappointed. The West has been apologising for a Century and it doesn't seem to have helped much.
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Post by RobertGraves on Jun 6, 2009 17:26:24 GMT -5
Much of the commentary looks for 'the detail' (and the devil).
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Post by Wyndham on Jun 15, 2009 9:56:17 GMT -5
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Post by Tenarke on Jun 16, 2009 18:36:11 GMT -5
The Iranian elections and (to put it in a most generous light) the rather improbable results have been much in the news here, as I am sure it must be with you. I found this NYT article very interesting in giving some insight into the Iranian political scene and its history. www.nytimes.com/2009/06/16/world/middleeast/16cleric.html?th&emc=thI really didn’t know how the Ayatollah Khomeini came to be succeeded by the Ayatollah Khamenei. It contains some interesting information into how things get done in Iran. I pray that none of this makes any of you bitter.
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Post by RobertGraves on Jun 17, 2009 15:38:24 GMT -5
Have you followed the Iranian thing on Twitter (or read about it)?
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Post by Tenarke on Jun 22, 2009 18:27:47 GMT -5
Sorry; I was busy the past few days with IRL stuff and didn’t check in here.
Yes Twitter has been much in the news here with Iranian “tweets”. In fact since the Iranian authorities have clamped down on foreign press internet messages from within Iran have been the main source of news for our various media.
Clearly the news from Iran is distressing, but I pray that we don’t get drawn into this any further. We can no longer afford to be policeman to the world, whether the world wants us or no. We are already too deeply stuck in the Middle East as it is to allow ourselves to be mired in even deeper.
As far as that goes, I don’t have a Twitter account and am thus completely “tweetless”.
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Post by Wyndham on Jun 22, 2009 18:58:14 GMT -5
Yes, the paper has had news about twittering in Iran up here too. I have no projections, however, as to how this will play out. I expect that the clerical regime has rather more resolution (and ruthlessness) than the Shah, however.
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Post by Tenarke on Jul 5, 2009 15:24:51 GMT -5
Two different things in the news have caught my attention. No; the passing of Michael Jackson does not happen to be one of them. The Iranian elections and their questionable results appear to be splitting that country asunder. Now according to this, the Iranian clergy itself may be in rebellion against its own highest authority, Ayatollah Khamanei: www.nytimes.com/2009/07/05/world/middleeast/05iran.html?th&emc=thIt will be interesting to see where this one goes. Next was the unexpected announcement by Sarah Palin that she will quit her job as Alaska’s governor. This will be, no doubt, to spend more time with Todd, Track, Trig, Bristol, Willow and Piper and, oh yes, to keep an eye on Russia from her living room window. I have seen several articles on what this might be all about but this by Maureen Dowd seems the best: www.nytimes.com/2009/07/05/opinion/05dowd.html?th&emc=thIt seems as though the GOP is coming apart at the seams. If this is the case some of the older established Democrats will be faced with the problem of redefining themselves as something other than Republican Lite.
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Post by Tenarke on Jul 10, 2009 16:52:30 GMT -5
It appears that the Kurds are getting ready to declare independence. They have, of course, been making noises to that effect for some time. If and when they do go they will be taking their oil and gas with them. Bad news for Baghdad: www.nytimes.com/2009/07/10/world/middleeast/10kurds.html?th&emc=thThe article doesn’t discuss Turkey’s take on all this. They also have a Kurdish region in their south. What would happen if these Turkish Kurds were to decide to split as well to join their cousins in a new Kurdistan? Where is everyone anyway? I feel I am hogging this thing again.
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